Upright poms?

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Upright poms?

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I have a spot for a pom with upright growth. From my experience, the Desertnyi and Vkusnyi are upright, while Parfianka, Sirenevyi, Sin Pepe, Eversweet, Angel Red are droopy and want to grow like many arches on top of each other. Ariana is a maybe, the rotted cutting in a 2 gal pot has very strong branches that grow nicely, the time will tell.
Any other upright poms you know know about?
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I have 12 different varieties and my Eversweet is the most upright of all of them. I am aware this is very anecdotal but I love the tree and can't wait for the first round of fruit to ripen this fall.
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Eykca wrote: Wed May 20, 2020 4:11 am I have 12 different varieties and my Eversweet is the most upright of all of them. I am aware this is very anecdotal but I love the tree and can't wait for the first round of fruit to ripen this fall.
That's interesting! Maybe different strains have different growth habits??
Please share your fruit taste feedback!
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According to Dr. Levin:

Agat: "Low growing, height - up to 1.1 m crown diameter - 1.5"
Ariana: "Shrub is low grown, straight standing"
Chernaya roza (Black rose): "The shrub is strong grown. The crown is straight with medium branching."

Of these, he rates Ariana's taste at 4.8 points and Chernaya roza a perfect 5 points. Both sweet sour with Ariana being soft-seeded and Chernaya roza hard seeded. No taste notes for Agat.

For comparison, since I know you have this one, this is what he says about Desertnyi: "crown is spread, branches are very flexible and drooped"
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@Blake
Thanks! I don’t agree with him about Desertnyi :)
But again, maybe this depends on a particular strain, environment, sun, etc.
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The most upright pomegranate bush I have is the variety 'White' https://www.lecooke.com/Images/Fruits_& ... e(RGB).pdf

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Alan,
Thank you . I am not familiar with White.
If I had to guess based on a description, I would say Eversweet.
I will keep it in mind.
Have you tasted the fruit yet?
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greenfig wrote: Thu May 21, 2020 8:03 am Alan,
Thank you . I am not familiar with White.
If I had to guess based on a description, I would say Eversweet.
I will keep it in mind.
Have you tasted the fruit yet?
Nope, this year will be the first year that it will fruit, yet I have read that first year fruit is not the best.

It's loaded with flowers and lots of them look like the fruiting kind. This variety was brought in by 'Chico State University' from the middle east. Out of 15 to 20 white varieties that the university brought in, "White Sweet" as they originally called it came in second to the way more well known variety 'Sweet', also brought in by that same university.

Here is history info https://www.lecooke.com/le-cooke-blog/s ... story.html
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alanmercieca wrote: Thu May 21, 2020 8:23 am
greenfig wrote: Thu May 21, 2020 8:03 am Alan,
Thank you . I am not familiar with White.
If I had to guess based on a description, I would say Eversweet.
I will keep it in mind.
Have you tasted the fruit yet?
Nope, this year will be the first year that it will fruit, yet I have read that first year fruit is not the best.

It's loaded with flowers and lots of them look like the fruiting kind. This variety was brought in by 'Chico State University' from the middle east. Out of 15 to 20 white varieties that the university brought in, "White Sweet" as they originally called it came in second to the way more well known variety 'Sweet', also brought in by that same university.

Here is history info https://www.lecooke.com/le-cooke-blog/s ... story.html
Thanks, Alan!
I wish they kept at least a hint of the original name or it’s location or the country it came from. Is it Iranian?
Oh, well, marketing to make money :(

“ Chico State University brought in many varieties of Pomegranates from the Middle East. I wanted a good White and Sweet selection. Mike Spratley, L. E. Cooke Co salesman since 1979, is a graduate of Chico State and was aware of their large collection. I asked Mike to obtain a good Sweet and White. He obtained about 15 or 20 White and many Sweet. The L.E. Cooke Co grew all of these selections to observe the fruit and to choose the best of each. ”
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greenfig wrote: Thu May 21, 2020 12:21 pm Thanks, Alan!
I wish they kept at least a hint of the original name or it’s location or the country it came from. Is it Iranian?
Oh, well, marketing to make money :(
I have no idea what country, or if it even had a name to begin with, yet I think that if the university had real names for them, that the nursery would have used those names, they tried very hard to give details about those two pomegranates after all, even the person who got them from a university they named.
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