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Too much or too little water?
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 8:35 pm
by pombazaar
Re: Too much or too little water?
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 10:45 pm
by alanmercieca
That happens when it's too hot out, and the plants are in the sun. It also happens around this time of the year, when the night temperatures start dropping, and it starts getting dark early.
When it gets hot like that it's best to wet the entire bush leaves and all, twice a day if possible, while getting the dirt soaking wet. Also the bigger the pot the better, because the more the soil there is the longer the soil stays moist and cool. I use grow bags, they stay cooker because they breath easier and you can find them in lighter colors than a lot of pots are. Black is the worst color pot when your have you plants in the hot sun.. It certainly does not look like you are over watering. Wetting the entire tree also causes higher fruit production.
Re: Too much or too little water?
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:04 am
by pombazaar
Hmm interesting. If this is only a heat issue what would explain the other trees that are also in black pots in the sun and get virtually no water but remain healthy and green? You think that the dead roots in the pictures are dry roots rather than root rot?
Re: Too much or too little water?
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:37 am
by alanmercieca
I don't know much about what your climate is like VS where I live, yet where I live fungal diseases can cause rotting of pomegranate bushes, and it can seem like over watering. The amount of rain seems irrelevant, it only happens when there is lots of fungal disease hitting our plants, our pear trees, and our pomegranate bushes. As pomegranate bushes get older they typically grow more resistant against the hot sun, and against fungal diseases. Also some varieties are just more resistant against all of these things, like our 'White' variety of pomegranate never had any serious problems with this, no trunk rot, no diseased flowers/fruit, no rotting roots, it has a much thicker harder bark than the rest, more of a armor so to speak, I paid no attention before I planted it yet I think that the roots probably have a thicker bark on them too.
Is one of those photos just rotting roots on the ground?
Re: Too much or too little water?
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:06 pm
by pombazaar
We don't get much humidity where I live. It's pretty moderate actually. I'm going to check the roots again today for any signs of fungal disease. Yes, the picture with the blue tarp are pieces of roots that broke off. There are tons like this inside the container.
Re: Too much or too little water?
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:48 pm
by alanmercieca
What kind of soil are you using?
Some of the fungal diseases that effect pomegranates are being found in very dry climates as well, like fungal fruit rot for example. It's a mystery as to why.
Re: Too much or too little water?
Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 12:45 am
by pombazaar
I mostly use Happy Frog with compost from grass clippings and decomposed leaves. I did another inspection of the roots today. At the very bottom I saw a bunch of white roots and no signs of fungal infection anywhere. I think it's safe to say that we can rule out over watering. We were in the mid 90s for nearly all of August with almost no rain then dropped about 20 degrees instantly going into September..that dryness with a sudden drop in temperature may have taken a severe toll. Last week we had a very early frost too. Now I'm wondering if this was all just a perfect recipe for early leaf drop.
Re: Too much or too little water?
Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:17 am
by alanmercieca
pombazaar wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 12:45 am
I mostly use Happy Frog with compost from grass clippings and decomposed leaves. I did another inspection of the roots today. At the very bottom I saw a bunch of white roots and no signs of fungal infection anywhere. I think it's safe to say that we can rule out over watering. We were in the mid 90s for nearly all of August with almost no rain then dropped about 20 degrees instantly going into September..that dryness with a sudden drop in temperature may have taken a severe toll. Last week we had a very early frost too. Now I'm wondering if this was all just a perfect recipe for early leaf drop.
I was wondering that myself, we are having an earlier than normal leaf drop, as well as one of our potted pomegranate bushes lost a good portion of it's leaves during a hot drought. Huge changes in temperature does shock plants, especially if frost hits at a bad time. Maybe the roots got frost damage.