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Re: Fruiting Behavior

Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 10:11 am
by alanmercieca
Maybe somehow the climate effects the taste? Maybe in only a certain climate it tastes that way, this one says tastes like orange juice, also it might depend on how ripe it is picked, and what part of the growing season the fruit is picked, like for our 'Salavatski' to have a citrus like flavor it has to be picked perfectly ripe, pick it too soon and there is none. The fruit that tasted like that was the very last fruit of the season, not sure if the cooler nights had anything to do with the citrus flavor. 2020 was the first year that we got fruit from the bush. https://hillcountrynatives.net/catablog ... desertnyi/

Re: Fruiting Behavior

Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 7:02 pm
by greenfig
alanmercieca wrote: Sun Jan 03, 2021 10:11 am Maybe somehow the climate effects the taste? Maybe in only a certain climate it tastes that way, this one says tastes like orange juice, also it might depend on how ripe it is picked, and what part of the growing season the fruit is picked, like for our 'Salavatski' to have a citrus like flavor it has to be picked perfectly ripe, pick it too soon and there is none. The fruit that tasted like that was the very last fruit of the season, not sure if the cooler nights had anything to do with the citrus flavor. 2020 was the first year that we got fruit from the bush. https://hillcountrynatives.net/catablog ... desertnyi/
I am ok with not having then orange aftertaste.
We base our taste judgement on one description that has been replicated gazillion times all over internet. I have not seen actual taste descriptions for pomegranates written by several people, it seems nobody cares to do that. It’s more copy and paste of something done many years ago in one particular area so we don’t really know how the same variety tastes under different conditions.

Re: Fruiting Behavior

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 2:46 am
by pombazaar
I've also noticed this and it kind of bothers me. I'm sure that there are so many gems out there that are overlooked due to poor information. For example, in The Wonderful Pomegranate, Shainakskii was reviewed by both the USDA/ARS and WEO. USDA has it listed as "soft-seeded, sweet-tart" while WEO stated that it was "very tart" and had "very hard seed." So what is it exactly? There are numerous others like this that I've come across while doing research.

Let's brainstorm some ideas to put out more reliable data. It's appearing to me more and more that climate along with micro-climate variables, seasonal, and soil conditions all play significant factors in the quality of fruit production.

Re: Fruiting Behavior

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:27 am
by alanmercieca
'WEO 42' is a strange variety, it fruits for some people and not for others, if it were the same thing as ‘Faye’s Paintbrush’ like Justin thinks it might be, then when it fruits some people get tiny horrible fruit, and others get much bigger and better fruit. Maybe his ‘Faye’s Paintbrush’ was reproduced from a part of a 'WEO 42' bush that had a stronger fruiting nature to it. There is a 'WEO 42' that some potions of the bush has better flowering and fruiting than the other portions of it.