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Was that 2G black seedling really only germinated last year or is last year when you received it?

Blake wrote: Fri May 01, 2020 3:13 pm Love it. Thanks for posting.

Was that 2G black seedling really only germinated last year or is last year when you received it?

That is when I germinated the seed that I extracted from a black pom that I was eating
That seedling is a monster! The other seedlings are growing well too but quite behind the back one.

alanmercieca wrote: Fri May 01, 2020 2:44 am I was given some seeds from a wild black pomegranate located in California, two seedlings survived, the fruit from the black wild pomegranate sounds much better than most black pomegranates are.

I have over 60 pomegranate seeds that I have started the germination process for this year, none are black, I am germinating the seeds out of curiosity to see what I get. I have no idea how I am going to care for all of them, they came from 4 different pomegranate plants on the Island of Malta.

I hope you taste the fruit in a year or too! The seedlings are fun to grow, very resilient and love the sun.
Do you have any seeds left to try them in CA?

greenfig wrote: Fri May 01, 2020 8:59 pm

Blake wrote: Fri May 01, 2020 3:13 pm Love it. Thanks for posting.

Was that 2G black seedling really only germinated last year or is last year when you received it?

That is when I germinated the seed that I extracted from a black pom that I was eating
That seedling is a monster! The other seedlings are growing well too but quite behind the back one.

WOW, that thing is huge for being only a year old!

greenfig wrote: Fri May 01, 2020 9:01 pm I hope you taste the fruit in a year or too! The seedlings are fun to grow, very resilient and love the sun.
Do you have any seeds left to try them in CA?

I got the seeds in early 2017, most of the 175 seeds did not survive in to successful plants, I sent a lot of them to two people, because I could not care for all of them. So the original seeds no I have none left, yet I have one of the seedlings here, and it will definitely fruit this year, it flowered last year.

This wild pomegranate the first year of flowering is always too late to fruit, then the second year of flowering it fruits, and the 3rd year it has even better fruits. One of the persons that I sent seeds to, he originally had 4 strong seedlings from the seeds, and they fruited a few times each, yet 3 of the 4 died of a severe drought in the ground. I will be getting a clone of his seedling this year. I am not sure if that one will fruit this year. Yet I should be able to collect some seeds for you from fruit this year, at least from the one I have here already.

Here is info about this variety 'Unknown Follybowlius' https://foodplace.info/Bountiful_Figs/v ... c.php?t=10

Alan ,

Thanks! It seems your pom is of a small size with hard seeds and not very sweet, correct?
I need to learn what to do with the fruit if not eaten fresh. So far, I tend to only grow soft seeded sweetish varieties because I like to eat them fresh. But as the trees grow, there will be too many to eat fresh.

greenfig wrote: Sat May 02, 2020 7:58 am Alan ,

Thanks! It seems your pom is of a small size with hard seeds and not very sweet, correct?
I need to learn what to do with the fruit if not eaten fresh. So far, I tend to only grow soft seeded sweetish varieties because I like to eat them fresh. But as the trees grow, there will be too many to eat fresh.

Unfortunately no one that has tried the fruit, has ever had any store bought fruit, and I have not tasted any of the fruit on any of their plants yet, and so I have no idea what they mean when they try to tell me the level of unsweetness other than less sweet than cranberries which does not say much to me, LOL. Yet it's certainly not a sweet pomegranate.

Seeds are hard, yet not very hard, yet fragile, that is the best way to describe it, in other words you will certainly not break your teeth on them.

I am already thinking up ideas of what to use the fruit for. In Europe they make things with them like Jam and like granita. a cranberry like sauce can be made with the juice if you use a not sweet variety, I bought some pomegranate jam, tasty yet was so much like cranberry that it did not seem appealing on an English muffin or toast. It felt much more like a thanksgiving thing.

A lot of people put the whole arils in chocolate. Candy can be made with the juice, like I bought some pomegranate Salt water Taffy last year, and it was clearly made with pomegranate juice. Ice cream and Gelato are made with it. In Sicily and in Malta they make a liqueur with pomegranates. As far as I know any fruit juice can be turned in to wine.

I'd imagine that you could freeze the juice, I know that in Turkey some companies concentrate (freeze dry) pomegranate juice in to a paste, then as they need it they add water to bottle it up in to juice, just like those frozen cans of juice from the grocery store.

The whole arils can be added to salads, some people even put them in tossed salad. Sadly there are very few recipes using pomegranates in them. I certainly intend on making my own recipes for things like a pasta sauce using pomegranate juice in place of tomatoes, I think that I could manage doing that, it's expensive to buy fresh tomatoes to make home made sauce, and we can not grow tomatoes all year, pomegranates are more healthy for you and making a spicy pasta sauce with it would be a way less boring alternative to using the juice in other ways, since it would taste way different than the juice it's self. Some varieties of pomegranate resembles the taste of red wine too, a common ingredient in a lot of home made pasta sauces. I think that 'Unknown Follybowlius' would make a great choice to use with such a sauce, since it's not so sweet. Someone that I have a lot of respect for, her body has developed an allergy to tomatoes, if she has any she'd need an ambulance, and she loves tomatoes so much, I got to thinking that she can't be the only person that has such an allergy, which convinced me even more to make a pasta sauce with poms. While I was trying to come up with ways to use the excess pomegranate juice that I will eventually have, I started to remember that the juice of some varieties of pomegranate tastes like red wine, and I only like wine in some tomato sauces, that is how the pasta sauce idea came to my mind.

I am rooting a sweet pomegranate variety that has fruit with a very dark purple skin, pomegranates are bigger than the fruit on 'Unknown Follybowlius', yet it's a cold sensitive variety.